There are a number of significant events in Part 2 of the novel. Tomorrow, we will have a group discussion of each of these. In your opinion, what is the most significant event of Part 2? Comment here and respond to your classmates' posts.
Events to consider:
Cheswick's apparent suicide
Nurse Ratched's insistence on keeping Mac on the ward
MacMurphy's sudden outbursts of violence against the nurse's station glass
Chief speaks
The men's confession that they are all "voluntary"
Something else?!
Each of these will be the focus of our conversation over the next 2 days in class...We've got a LOT to talk about :)
Happy posting!
I think the most significant part was when McMurphy broke the glass. He showed the nurse that even though she can keep him there, he holds the power.
ReplyDeleteI agree in some aspect with you, that it shows he is not afraid of her power and would do something more crazy and aggressive. It is very significant.
DeleteI agree, this is a very important part in the part. I would argue that this would be a result of the Nurse keeping him on the ward, but this is definitely the climax of this section.
DeleteI think the most important part of part 2 is the confession that everyone there except a couple of people are there voluntarily. This shows that they all think that they can't function properly in society.
ReplyDeletei think this is important because it really shows how messed up they really are
DeleteThat adds a significant twist into part two of the book. McMurphy thinks the other guys are forced into being on the ward, but in reality they can leave whenever they choose, but they don't have the guts. McMurphy then feels true compassion for Billy Bibbit because he realizes that Billy is experiencing true fear, something he himself has never gone through.
DeleteI think the most important part of Part 2 is the Nurse's decision to keep McMurphy on the ward. He is depressed at first, but then strikes back, breaking the Nurse's symbolic glass window.
ReplyDeleteI think nurse ratched not letting McMurphy go is very significant. She clearly has anger and a vendetta against him. She doesnt let that on to the Ward or doctors though.
ReplyDeleteI agree that it is very important in part two. It changes McMurphy's outlook throughout the part. He goes from a very tough, angry person to a passive, calm patient.
DeleteI very much agree. This triggers a whole series of events that make up this part.
DeleteI think that the most important part in part 2 of the book is when McMurphy breaks the glass. It shows that he still has some authority over her. Even though that she can keep him in the ward. This is important because he wants to alwayus show her he isn't going to follow her rules.
ReplyDeletei agree with this and that mccmurphy is always fighting for power
DeleteThe most significant part of part two is when mccmurphy has his violent outburst towards the nurses station. Hes always trying to assert his power over nurse ratched
ReplyDeleteI think the mosy important part of Part 2 is The men's confession that they are all "voluntary". I think this is important because McMurphy used to think that the ward was a great place and now that he has been here for a while, he realizes the ward life isn't all it seems to be.
ReplyDeleteI agree. I think for the first time McMurphy realizes that in reality, he doesn't belong in the ward. I think in part 3 he will most likely plan an escape. I don't know; he tried to do it once, I think he could do it again. Plus, I think the ward is making him crazy so he'll probably end up doing something really stupid.
DeleteI agree with Molly on his ability to do something stupid or foolhardy. He will most likely attempt a escape or a fight. ...Something to wreak havoc.
DeleteI think the most significant part was when chief spoke. It changes his entire character basis. the reason he is on the ward, and the reason he knows everything that is happening, is because of his mute and deafness. By speaking he finally comes to terms with the fact that he can be a force in the ward like everyone else. Being the narrator I think this is going to change the entire way the story is told.
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DeleteI agree that this is really important. Who knows what Chief can do now or where he can get into after he spoke, compared to when everyone knew he was deaf. If everyone finds out that he spoke, the book may change a lot.
DeleteThe most important aspect of part two is McMurphy's dramatic character switch. McMurphy used to have a swagger that he owned the ward. Now, he is quite introverted and because he is committed and can't leave. He can't handle things he used to tolerate like Martini's random hallucinations or the ways of Nurse Ratched.
ReplyDeleteYes, when McMurphy learns that the Nurse can keep him in he instantly changes his mentality. McMurphy then learns that Billy Bibbit can leave whenever he wants, but he's scared. Then McMurphy feels bad for him, and he gets back to his usual, aggressive self.
DeleteI think the most significant part of part two is McMurphy's sudden outburst of violence against the nurse's station glass. This shows that even though she is keeping him in the ward, he will still rebel and have more power over her.
ReplyDeleteThe most important part of chapter two is definitely is at the end when McMurphy openly defies Nurse Ratched on the spot in front of all the others. During the majority of the part, McMurphy is very obedient to the Nurse because he learns that she is the one who ultimately controls if he gets released or must stay longer. It is symbolic because it says at the end of part two that "this was supposed to be the her final victory over him, establish her rule once and for all" (201). Without this ending, the rest of the book could have been completely different and not nearly as interesting. That is why it's the most significant scene of part two.
ReplyDeleteWow Chris, that was powerfully put. i agree with you because it will ultimately decide how the book ends and what falls into place. it makes sense.
DeleteI think McMurphy's violent outburst is the most important part because he starts settling down, and listening to Nurse Ratched and doing his job. So Nurse thought she had control over him, but he showed she didn't have control over him.
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